GT-R Tuning with E85 nets big power!

GT-R Power with the COBB AccessPORT

At COBB Tuning we are never satisfied with good enough and we love to experiment. In the environmentally-concious Pacific Northwest, home of our COBB Tuning Surgeline Facility, we have a ready supply of corn juice, or E85. E85 is a blend of 85% ethanol and 15% gasoline. Originally developed as a bio-fuel for “flex fuel” domestic cars in the US, E85 has become the alternative fuel of choice for performance enthusiast. The allure of this biofuel comes from its high octane compared to regular pump fuels – 91 to 94 compared to 105 – and a very low price compared to higher octane race fuels. In many parts of the USA E85 costs as little as 2 dollars per gallon. When compared to 8 to 14 dollars quality high octane race fuels E85 represents a huge bargain. If you don’t know about E85 you’re naturally asking the question “why am i not running e85 every day?”. The answer is you can’t. Most stock vehicles are not calibrated or equipped to utilize ethanol based fuels.

Despite having a higher octane rating, E85 has a lower overall energy density than pure pump fuel. Pure gasoline contains approximately 125,000 BTUs per gallon, while E85 contains approximately 84,000. This means that a greater volume of E85 must be utilized to realize the same energy content. This lower hydrocarbon content is mirrored by the stoichiometry of E85 and pure unleaded gasoline. Complete combustion of pure gasoline requires 14.7 parts air (mixed gas air with 23 percent oxygen) with one part fuel. In contrast, complete combustion of E85 requires a much higher relative content of fuel with only 9.7 parts air required. The distillation of this information means that larger volumes of E85 are required for equivalent combustion when compared to pure pump fuel. Thus, the cost savings associated with lower E85 prices is offset by an overall reduction in fuel economy. (taken from Driving Sports article “methanol injection vs E85” by Tim Bailey.

Tim Bailey’s E85-Tuned GTR

The graph below shows the stochiometry of E85 (lamda) is similar for pump and E85 but the volume of fuel required for E85 is much higher by proportion (Air to fuel ratio). Despite these limitation of E85 we wanted to tune our GTR to utilize this fuel. Together, the lower cost, higher octane, and higher overall power potential are simply too much to resist. Furthermore, because E85 has not been used in the new GTR platform I simply couldn’t resist the technical challenge.AFR Lambda on E85 and Pump fuel

Because a stock GTR can use nearly 100% of its available injector capacity on pump fuel the first step in using E85 is to replace the stock injectors with larger units. We chose to use Deatschwerks 800cc injectors. These are ~30% larger than stock and should be able to provide the additional fuel volume needed for E85. The injectors were installed and the car tuned on pump fuel:

Stock – completely stock calibration with 92 octane pump fuel – BLUE

Stage 2 800cc – COBB midpipe, COBB prototype cat back exhaust, stock intake, stock fuel pump. – RED

Stock GT-R vs Stage2

We then drained the tank and refilled with E85 full. I adjusted the calibration with COBB AccessTUNER Pro software and prepared to run the car. The first few runs were done at low boost and all was well. The calibration was then adjusted for higher boost and we attempted a full run. I aborted the run because the motor went progressively leaner at RPMs and fuel demand increased.

This increasing lean condition clearly points out a lack of fuel delivery. Because our injectors are mathematically ideal for ~30% higher flow it’s clear that the stock fuel pumps simply cannot keep up with higher duty cycle with 800cc injectors.To combat the lack of fuel we installed two walbro 255s in the place of the stock fuel pumps. The installation took about 4 hours total as the stock in tank fuel surge tank needed heavy but straightforward modification. With new fuel pumps installed we went back to the dyno with high hopes of sufficient fuel delivery. The results are presented in the graph below:

Stock 2009 GTR – 92 octane – BLUE

Stage 2 800cc – COBB midpipe, COBB prototype cat back exhaust, stock intake, stock fuel pump, 800cc Deatschwerks injectors – RED

Stage 2 800cc + E85 – COBB midpipe, COBB prototype cat back exhaust, stock intake, Twin walbro 255 fuel pumps, 800cc Deatschwerks injectors – GREEN

E85 Tuned GT-R vs Stage 2

This E85 Stage 2 configuration is now the highest HP and torque stock turbo car tuned on our Mustang dyno. When the weather clears here in the pacific northwest we’ll find some dry test roads and report V-box data. We’re also planning to rent a local drag strip for development and testing so ETs and trap speeds are coming. As a next step we plan to install some custom intakes. If our early observations are correct this car will make more than 600 whp on stock turbo’s with E85…. all while retaining the factory downpipes.

To continue with the conversation, head on over to NAGTROC to see what other GT-R enthusiasts are saying about this amazing fuel!

Original text by Tim Bailey, Head Calibrator, COBB Tuning


13 responses to “GT-R Tuning with E85 nets big power!”

  1. Your AFR graphs are wrong or wrongly explained if using AEM wideband or system alike. AEM equation for stoich on a gas calibrated widband is AFR= Lambda x 14.7. so even if you switch to e85 and still monitor it with a gasoline based wideband (like AEM) stoich will remain at 14.7 Then at wot you would tune for around .8 lambda for peak gains and adjust accordingly to whatever afr that means on the wideband. This article contained very vague description of that and it might cause some confusion. Just my 2 cents.

  2. Hi Josue Andrade,

    The data presented in the graph is correct. I’ll explain the data and comparison in more detail.

    As you point out, a reasonable lambda for E85 is approximately 0.8. This is what’s shown in the upper panel of the graph “E85 requires similar lambda but much lower AFR”. The lower panel of this graph uses the same fuel data but described as AFR (air to fuel ratio). Pump fuel requires approximately 14.7 parts air to completely burn one part fuel (lambda of 1 = 14.7 AFR). So at a lambda of ~0.8 you record a gasoline AFR of ~12:1. In contrast to pump fuel E85 requires less air for complete combustion. E85 requires ~9.7 parts air per one unit of fuel(lambda 1 = 9.7 AFR). As you indicate a reasonable lambda for E85 on full boost is ~0.8. If you take 0.8 and multiply times 9.7 you get the actual E85 AFR of ~8:1. The huge difference in AFR is shown in the lower panel of the graph in question. This contrast in AFR (proportion by weight) but similar lambda (proportion by stochiometry) is the point of the graph. The take home message is that E85 requires about 30% more fuel volume at similar air flow when compared to regular petrol pump fuels.

    If you’d like a more detailed explanation you can reference my article in driving sports online reprinted from subiesport magazine. http://www.drivingsports.com/site/2008/07/e85-vs-methanol-injection/

    Best regards
    Tim Bailey

  3. […] Cobb Tuning has managed to pull off something of a miracle. How so? The tuner has squeezed a full 600 horsepower from mighty Nissan GT-R. No biggie, right? It wouldn’t be, except the team has done it on E85 pump gas. That’s right – the lowest of the low, bottom of the barrel swill available from every quick stop across the country. How’d they do it? Using stock turbos, the tuner took full advantage of the Cobb Access Port – recalibrating the engine to handle the ethanol/petrol mix. The results are mind blowing. [Source: Cobb] […]

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